In Episode 32, the Grumpy Strategists apply science to the Australian government’s early engagement with the Trump Administration. Insights from prey species threatened by a predator help. They look at Japan’s approach to hedging against US risks and how this connects to the new frigate program & Australia. The episode ends going through the numbers on US Navy missile use in the Red Sea, and celebrating the ridiculous – ludicrous even – success that the latest numbers from Defence on exports indicate.